Join Dave and Steve, two seasoned, active investigators with over 35 years of combined law enforcement experience, as they pull back the curtain on the criminal justice system. From real case breakdowns to discussions on the inner workings of investigations, they bring firsthand insight into the realities of police work—the good, the bad, and the untold.
Expect unfiltered perspectives, expert analysis, and candid conversations with professionals in the field. While they take their work seriously, they don’t take themselves too seriously, so buckle up for honest discussions, dark humor, and a no-nonsense look at the world of criminal investigations.
In the second half of this deep-dive, Steve and Dave get into the real-world techniques and challenges of interviewing and interrogating suspects. They touch on structured methods like REID and PEACE, but emphasize how much of the craft is learned through observation, experience, and knowing what actually works in the room.
They break down the importance of listening to what a suspect says (and doesn’t say), picking up on body language, microexpressions, and story changes when confronted with evidence. Planning ahead, anticipating responses, and reading the room become a form of mental gymnastics.
The episode explores what detectives are really hoping to get from an interrogation: confessions, admissions, or valuable contradictions, and how even without a confession, a strong case can still be made. They share how they handle lies, deflections, and suspects who bring attorneys into the room, and why pushing too hard can backfire.
False confessions are also front and center: who is most at risk, how they happen, and how detectives can avoid getting them. Steve and Dave bust movie myths about dramatic confessions and explain why most interrogations don’t end in handcuffs. They also reflect on some of their most difficult interrogations and what those experiences taught them.
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