That’s So Retrograde began the conversation when they pioneered merging wellness and pop culture back in 2015. Coined the “the Ab Fab of the new age”, hosts Elizabeth Kott and Stephanie Simbari highlight wellness trends before they hit the zeitgeist. Through speaking with thought leaders in health, beauty, astrology, cannabis and beyond, they offer their listeners a ‘choose their own adventure’ type experience on the path to building their own toolkit and finding the guru within. @soretrograde / thatssoretrograde.com
In celebration of the 200th episode, icon and radio host, John Arthur Hill (, visits the studio and turns the tables on TSR’s beloved hosts, going deep (and shallow) with Elizabeth and Stephanie on the origin story of their friendship, the podcast and some key moments and lessons gleaned from the past 4.5 years of doing the show. Special guests include - comedian Amy Phillips and famed Roses and Thorns appropriator, Andy Cohen. Thanks to our partners: Thrive Market
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