Out of Patients is a no-BS podcast about making healthcare suck less for everyone. Join award-winning host Matthew Zachary each week as he and his guests sardonically deconstruct all the shenanigans in terms normal humans can understand, along with a healthy dose of 80s nostalgia and random pop culture references. So strap in, and let's all make the system less horrible; because advocacy is the only thing that's ever changed anything.
On today's episode, the one and only Johnny Imerman joins Matthew to kickoff this podcast with style. As one of the defining founders of the young adult cancer movement, and someone who supported Matthew in the early days to start Stupid Cancer, Jonny is one of the single most influential cancer advocates in the world. The two talk about life, all the crap they went through, founding a nonprofit, building a community, launching a movement, and knowing when it was time to step down. Stories worth telling.
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