Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary is the longest-running independent healthcare podcast. 17 years of unfiltered truth about American healthcare. Matthew survived brain cancer at 21, built the young adult cancer movement from nothing, and now channels patient rage into political power. Each episode features battle-scarred survivors, exhausted caregivers, and the rare insider brave enough to name what's killing us. Real stories from real people who refuse to accept that healthcare has to hurt this much. New listeners come for the truth. They stay because finally someone's saying what they've been screaming.
On today's episode, the one and only Johnny Imerman joins Matthew to kickoff this podcast with style. As one of the defining founders of the young adult cancer movement, and someone who supported Matthew in the early days to start Stupid Cancer, Jonny is one of the single most influential cancer advocates in the world. The two talk about life, all the crap they went through, founding a nonprofit, building a community, launching a movement, and knowing when it was time to step down. Stories worth telling.
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