Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary is the most notorious, unapologetic, and influential podcast in healthcare, amplifying the patient voice like no other. With millions of listeners, a legacy of shaping cancer survivorship, and a track record of driving policy change, this is more than a podcast—it's a movement.
Hosted by Matthew Zachary, the longest-standing podcaster in healthcare since 2007's award-winning Stupid Cancer Show, every episode delivers a masterclass in storytelling with unapologetic authenticity, sharp wit, deep insights, and unforgettable conversations with a tinge of GenX nostalgia.
Featuring healthcare leaders, patient advocates, celebrities, authors, influencers, nonprofit champions, industry titans, and game-changing innovators, Out of Patients delivers conversations that make you think deeper, feel more, and learn like nowhere else.
If you really want to know what's really happening in healthcare from the people's point of view, this is the show you can't afford to miss.
Today on the show, I welcome an extraordinary young woman —> Grace Wethor is a living unicorn of talent and intelligence. Guitarist. Pianist, Trapeze Artist, Figure Skater, Model, Author, TED Speaker — and 6-year survivor of an inoperable brain stem glioma that she was diagnosed with at 13 years old in 2015. Grace is the author of "You're So Lucky" and a new docu-series called "You're So Lucky: The Next Chapter." She joins me to talk about what it's like to have your whole life interrupted at such a young age, and we compare notes against her experiences in the 2010s vs. my eerily similar experiences in the 1990s. Spoiler Alert: We've come pretty far, but we've got a ways to go. Enjoy the show.
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