Welcome to Nice Talk, hosted by Marie Claire Editor in Chief Nikki Ogunnaike. Each week, Nikki will sit down with fascinating women—entertainers, entrepreneurs, creators, athletes, and changemakers—to discuss money, power, and style. “Well-behaved” women have long been discouraged from speaking on these topics—style should be effortless, and conversations about money or power aren’t “proper,” “ladylike,” or “nice.” But Nikki’s definition of a Nice Talk is one where all parties walk away feeling empowered. Nikki’s guests are getting candid about how they navigated their come-ups, what makes them feel both powerful and powerless, and of course, how they use personal style to communicate with the world.
Today on the show, we’re discussing power dynamics in relationships with Kamie Crawford. Between her award-winning podcast Relationsh*t, her six years spent as co-host of Catfish: The TV Show, and her role as older sister in a family of six kids, Crawford knows a thing or two about relationships. On this episode, she dives into her relationship with fame as well as why she made the difficult decision to leave Catfish after years on the show. She also gives advice to listeners about relationships, including how to make friends as an adult, how to navigate the daunting friend breakup, and why she cautions against manifesting a rich husband.
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