Listen to A Closer Look and more in the audio edition of Late Night with Seth Meyers, weeknights at 12:35/11:35c on NBC.
Seth takes a closer look at Trump getting more desperate for the adoration of his crowds as the trial of his ex-campaign chairman gets under way and his former lawyer turns on him.
Then, Henry Winkler talks about his childhood antics on New York City buses, his Emmy nomination for Barry and the inspiration for his character.
After that, just for the podcast, Winkler takes a few more questions backstage from Late Night producer Kevin Miller.
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