Tom Ortenberg is the founder of Briarcliff Entertainment, which is distributing the new movie about Donald Trump and Roy Cohn called "The Apprentice." It premieres this Friday November 1 wherever you rent your streaming movies – Prime, Apple, etc. As I've discussed on the show, it's not necessarily a political indictment of Donald, but it gives us a feel for how he became the monster we all know – a toxic mix of his own sociopathy, plus some Fred Trump toxicity, and a lot of Roy Cohn in there, too. Meantime, make sure to support this podcast by subscribing at patreon.com/bobcescashow. Music by Jesse Terry and Alex Wong.

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