Join Chloé Valdary (NYT, Theory of Enchantment) and Jamie Kilstein (The Joe Rogan Experience, Conan) as they explore, well, just about everything. From hip hop and comedy to spirituality and politics, So much Things to say aims to help you figure out this f*cked up crazy world and discover the redemption in it -- and in yourself.
Jamie and Chloe discuss the danger of DiAngelo's White Fragility and the institutions that are complicit in proliferating its reductive claims. The duo go on to discuss the Goodyear MAGA crackdown and recommended art for the week.
