John discusses and celebrates President Biden signing the Respect for Marriage Act which guarantees federal rights of marriages in the federal code for same-sex and interracial couples. Then he talks with Jill Garvey, Chief of Staff for The Western States Center. Next he interviews journalist Wajahat Ali, who is a democracy-ish podcaster, on current politics. And finally he chats with anthropologist, primatologist, actor, producer, writer, host and comedienne Natalia Reagan. They once again revisit “Shit You Can’t Say” featuring phrases w/problematic (read: racist) origins that should be kicked to the curb.

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