How can we create a better future through inclusive design? In his episode of NeoConversations, host, and editor-in-chief of METROPOLIS Avi Rajagopal sits down with design powerhouses and speakers at this year’s NeoCon—Cheryl Durst, executive vice president and CEO of IIDA, and Jason Pugh, principal design manager and global director of diversity equity and inclusion at Gensler—to discuss the importance of diverse perspectives in interior design. Listen as Durst and Pugh share their journeys to their various leadership roles, the values and methods at the core of their work, the missed opportunities for diversity they see in the design professions, and the concepts and ideas they are most excited about today.

NeoConversations is produced by the SURROUND Podcast Network in partnership with Turf. This episode was recorded in the NeoCon Podcast Studio, Powered by SURROUND and Sponsored by SnapCab.

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