To commemorate the 60th anniversary of the JFK assassination we're setting the wayback machine to 2018 when I spoke with Helen O'Donnell. Helen is an accomplished author and historian as well as the daughter of President Kennedy’s chief of staff Kenny O’Donnell -- you might recognize Kenny from Kevin Costner’s portrayal of him in the stellar film about the Cuban Missile Crisis, Thirteen Days. Helen’s new book -- out now -- is called Launching LBJ: How A Kennedy Insider Helped Define Johnson's Presidency, culled from Kenny O’Donnell’s tapes and journals about the early days of the Johnson administration following Kennedy’s assassination. Meantime, please subscribe to our Patreon page at bobcescashow.com. Music by Jim Wurster.