Lisa and investigative reporter Barry Levine get down to the nitty gritty in their conversation about Barry's new book The Spider: Inside The Criminal Web of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. There are new facts, details and explosive correlations between Epstein, Maxwell, and many high-powered and well-known figures. It's a must listen episode! But all is not lost, there are still the 5 Things that made their lives better this week.

Lisa Birnbach’s 5 Things: 1. My Family, 2. My Health, 3. My Old Friends, 4. My New Friends! 5. The Resistance.

Barry Levine’s 5 Things: 1.Watching the animated Peanuts Charlie Brown Halloween and Christmas shows with my daughter, 2. Starting every single day, no matter where I am, with a visit to Starbucks for a Trenta black iced tea 3. Drinking dirty martinis at an old writers bar in Manhattan with former newspaper colleagues and telling war stories, 4. Going to the annual antiquarian book fair every spring at the Park Avenue Armory in New York, 5. Pulling out a reporter’s notepad and simply putting pencil to paper in this high-tech world.

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