Meet Joyce White Vance, the MSNBC legal analyst, law professor, podcaster, and chicken raiser (among her many talents). You know her from tv where she uses her experience as a prosecutor to explain the consequences of the bad and very bad behavior we experienced for four years. An incredibly well-rounded person, the five things that make her life better are...

Joyce Vance’s 5 Things: 1. Swedish baked goods, 2. Chickens, 3. Zoom drinks with girlfriends, 4. My German Shep, Bella, 5. Family meals.

Lisa Birnbach’s 5 Things: 1. My mother’s caregivers, 2. Skincare and skincare bonding #EveLom and Augustinus Bader, 3. Dr. Jill Biden, 4. The tuna salad at Gentile’s Fine Food on Madison Avenue, NYC, 5. Pajamas.

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