Authors Katherine Alford and Kathy Gunst join Lisa Birnbach and discuss Rage Baking - their new cookbook that helps funnel all those feelings we have about Trump, Corona Virus and the lack of ventilators in the USA into something sweet.

Lisa’s 5 Things: 1. Governors Andrew Cuomo and Gavin Newsom, 2. Her mom’s team of health care aides, 3. The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, 4. Rufus Wainwright, 5. Religious and meditation leaders on Zoom.

Kathy Gunst’s 5 Things: 1. Family, 2. Friendship, 3. Outdoors, 4. Food. Baking. Cooking. Chopping. Eating. Repeat. 5. The written word. 

Katherine Alford’s 5 Things: 1. Being by/in/or on the water, 2. Quaker Meeting, 3. Cooking with/and for Friends, 4. NY's Chinatowns, 5. Spa Castle Korean spa in NYC.

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