Matt Gutman is a reporter, currently serving as ABC’s Chief National Correspondent, and author of multiple books including his latest, No Time to Panic: How I Curbed My Anxiety and Conquered a Lifetime of Panic Attacks (2023). He joins the show to discuss his quest to conquer the panic attacks he secretly had on air, and everything he learned along the way. We explore why we have not evolved out of panic, why panic occurs, the fear of social rejection, and how he ultimately found relief through psychedelics. We also talk about addiction, trauma, and the various modalities available to us to self regulate. Despite the heavy subject matter this is a fascinating, fun and lively conversation that everyone will be able to relate to.

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