{"author_name":"We Don't PLAY!™: Best Technical SEO and Pinterest Marketing Strategies Podcast for AI Visibility","author_url":"https://art19.com/shows/we-dont-play/episodes/60a5f2a7-88de-421e-b34c-5c4b101d7ad7","description":"<p><a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/mynetwork/discovery-see-all/?usecase=PEOPLE_FOLLOWS&amp;followMember=favourobasiike\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Favour Obasi-ike, MBA, MS</a>&nbsp;hosts a two-part deep dive on email marketing and CRM platforms from the Marketing Club on Clubhouse, joined by Alex (<a href=\"https://www.hubspot.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">HubSpot</a>, agency owner), Sandra (<a href=\"https://www.mailerlite.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">MailerLite</a>, digital products coach), and David (<a href=\"https://partners.flodesk.com/wedontplay\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Flodesk</a>, just starting out).</p><p>The conversation spans why four out of five marketers prefer email over social media, how a single font size change drove a 73.7% open rate,</p><p><a href=\"https://www.g2.com/products/flodesk/reviews?filters%5Bcomment_answer_values%5D=&amp;order=most_recent&amp;utf8=✓#reviews\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Flodesk's Magic Links and auto-segmentation features (Read on G2 Reviews)</a>, subject line testing with <a href=\"https://capitalizemytitle.com/headline-analyzer/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">CapitalizeMyTitle.com</a>, deliverability testing with <a href=\"https://www.mail-tester.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">mail-tester.com</a>, the \"send fewer emails, get higher clicks\" strategy, and the critical difference between first-party and second-party data.</p><p><br></p><p><strong><u>Book SEO Services? 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A Wikipedia link triggered spam in Favour's test.</li><li><strong>Use CapitalizeMyTitle.com</strong> to score subject lines on readability, SEO, and sentiment. Score green on all three before sending.</li></ol><p><br></p><p>Memorable Quotes</p><p>\"Four out of five marketers say they would rather give up social media marketing than email marketing.\" — Favour [03:10, Pt.1]</p><p>\"It's not just what you say. It's how you say things, and how it's layered.\" — Favour [13:05, Pt.1]</p><p>\"The content you send to your audience is more important than what platform you use.\" — Sandra [31:18, Pt.2]</p><p>\"Email marketing is like an animal in itself. It's not just about sending email. It's about analyzing the data.\" — Sandra [29:41, Pt.2]</p><p>\"We divided our time in half and got more impact. From 16 emails in May to 4 in August — 15% increase in click rates.\" — Favour [52:00, Pt.2]</p><p><br></p><p><strong><u>FAQs</u></strong></p><p><strong>Q: Which CRM platform does Favour recommend?</strong></p><p>Flodesk. He has used it since 2019 (beta). It partners with Amazon SES for high deliverability, costs $19/month for unlimited subscribers, and offers Magic Links for auto-segmentation.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Q: What other platforms were discussed?</strong></p><p>Alex uses HubSpot (B2B agency), Sandra uses MailerLite (small list, digital products), Melo uses MailChimp, and Ty uses Klaviyo. Each fits different business needs and budgets.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Q: How do I improve my email open rate?</strong></p><p>Increase font size to 16, test subject lines on <a href=\"https://capitalizemytitle.com/headline-analyzer/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">CapitalizeMyTitle.com</a>, test deliverability on <a href=\"https://www.mail-tester.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">mail-tester.com</a>, and segment your list so every email is relevant to the recipient.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Q: How often should I send emails?</strong></p><p>Quality over quantity. Favour cut from 16/month to 4/month and saw click rates jump from 3.5% to 17.9%. Send fewer emails with more substance.</p>","html":"<iframe src=\"https://art19.com/shows/we-dont-play/episodes/60a5f2a7-88de-421e-b34c-5c4b101d7ad7/embed\" style=\"width: 720px; height: 200px; border: 0 none;\" width=\"720\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"></iframe>","provider_name":"ART19","provider_url":"https://art19.com","title":"Flodesk, HubSpot, MailerLite, or MailChimp? Choosing the Best Email Marketing CRM with Favour Obasi-ike","type":"rich","version":"1.0","width":720,"height":200}