{"author_name":"The Tim Ferriss Show","author_url":"https://art19.com/shows/tim-ferriss-show/episodes/b40d5b98-f215-42fc-8b67-446d540ff94c","description":"<p><strong><em>Brought to you by </em></strong><a href=\"https://protekt.com/tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><em>Protekt's REST</em></strong></a><strong><em> sleep supplement, </em></strong><a href=\"http://athleticgreens.com/tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><em>Athletic Greens's AG1</em></strong></a><strong><em>&nbsp;all-in-one nutritional supplement, and&nbsp;</em></strong><a href=\"http://shopify.com/tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><em>Shopify</em></strong></a><strong><em>&nbsp;global commerce platform providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business.&nbsp;</em></strong></p><p><strong>Bill Gurley </strong>(<a href=\"https://twitter.com/bgurley\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">@bgurley</a>) has spent more than 20 years as a general partner at Benchmark. Before entering the venture capital business, Bill spent four years on Wall Street as a top-ranked research analyst, including three years at Credit Suisse First Boston.</p><p>Bill also maintains a blog on the evolution and economics of high technology businesses called <a href=\"http://abovethecrowd.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Above the Crowd</a>.</p><p>Over his venture career, he has worked with such companies as <a href=\"http://www.grubhub.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">GrubHub</a>, <a href=\"https://nextdoor.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Nextdoor</a>, <a href=\"http://www.opentable.com/san-francisco-restaurants\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">OpenTable</a>, <a href=\"http://www.stitchfix.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Stitch Fix</a>, <a href=\"https://www.uber.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Uber</a>, and <a href=\"http://www.zillow.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Zillow</a>.&nbsp;</p><p>Bill has a BS in computer science from the University of Florida and an MBA from the University of Texas. He is also a chartered financial analyst. Bill is a board trustee at the Santa Fe Institute, a research and education center focused on the study and understanding of complex adaptive systems.</p><p>Please enjoy!</p><p>*</p><p><strong>This episode is brought to you by&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"http://shopify.com/tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Shopify</strong></a><strong>!&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"http://shopify.com/tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Shopify</a>&nbsp;is one of my favorite platforms and one of my favorite companies.&nbsp;<a href=\"http://shopify.com/tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Shopify</a>&nbsp;is<strong>&nbsp;designed for anyone to sell anywhere</strong>, giving entrepreneurs the resources once reserved for big business. In no time flat, you can have a great-looking online store that brings your ideas to life, and you can have the tools to manage your day-to-day and drive sales. 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I do my best with nutrient-dense meals, of course, but&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">AG</a>&nbsp;further covers my bases with vitamins, minerals, and whole-food-sourced micronutrients that support gut health and the immune system.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Right now,&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Athletic Greens</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;is offering you their Vitamin D Liquid Formula free with your first subscription purchase</strong>—a vital nutrient for a strong immune system and strong bones.&nbsp;<strong>Visit&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"https://www.athleticgreens.com/tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>AthleticGreens.com/Tim</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;to claim this special offer today and receive the free Vitamin D Liquid Formula (and five free travel packs) with your first subscription purchase!&nbsp;</strong>That’s up to a one-year supply of Vitamin D as added value when you try their delicious and comprehensive all-in-one daily greens product.</p><p>*</p><p>[05:51] The book Bill calls \"the most efficient short-form MBA one can find.\"</p><p>[07:31] Sell-side analysts vs. buy-side analysts.</p><p>[09:45] Financial models, rules of thumb, and making (sometimes wrong) decisions.</p><p>[17:28] Howard Marks and Stan Druckenmiller.</p><p>[19:26] Micro vs. macro investing.</p><p>[20:40] Institutional Investor's All-America Research Team.</p><p>[24:16] Expanding distribution.</p><p>[27:04] Return On Invested Capital (ROIC).</p><p>[33:10] Repurposing good ideas for alternative applications.</p><p>[37:01] The conviction of network effects.</p><p>[38:58] SaaS and open source.</p><p>[42:40] Bet sizing.</p><p>[44:04] Equal partnership over hierarchy.</p><p>[50:08] Lessons learned from partners.</p><p>[52:57] Recommended resources.</p><p>[58:46] Problems open source can solve.</p><p>[1:09:28] Building a better network with the interest graph.</p><p>[1:13:42] Dissecting Bill's Twitter thread about risks and sudden valuation resets.</p><p>[1:23:50] The Metaverse.</p><p>[1:29:00] Revenue and earnings quality matter.</p><p>[1:31:02] Undervalued competitive advantages.</p><p>[1:35:02] Jeff Bezos: corporate mad scientist?</p><p>[1:40:42] The counterintuitive condemnation of company camaraderie.</p><p>[1:45:37] Tobi Lütke.</p><p>[1:48:51] Books Bill has gifted frequently.</p><p>[1:52:29] The Santa Fe Institute.</p><p>[1:54:35] Bill's board.</p><p>[1:56:32] Cultivating anti-tribalism.</p><p>[1:58:13] Twitter: what is it good for?</p><p>[2:01:14] Newsletters and other resources Bill relies on.</p><p>[2:03:05] Bill's book in progress.</p><p>[2:04:12] Regulatory capture.</p><p>[2:09:10] Predicting what America will look like in 10-20 years.</p><p>[2:10:50] Parting thoughts.</p><p>*</p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"http://tim.blog/podcast\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong>, please visit</strong>&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For deals from sponsors of&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"http://tim.blog/podcast\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong><em>,&nbsp;</em>please visit&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"http://tim.blog/podcast-sponsors\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>tim.blog/podcast-sponsors</strong></a></p><p><strong>Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (<em>5-Bullet Friday</em>) at&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>tim.blog/friday</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For transcripts of episodes, go to&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"http://tim.blog/transcripts\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>tim.blog/transcripts</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>Discover Tim’s books:&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"http://tim.blog/books\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>tim.blog/books</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>Follow Tim:</strong></p><p><strong>Twitter</strong>:&nbsp;<a href=\"https://twitter.com/tferriss\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">twitter.com/tferriss</a>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Instagram</strong>:&nbsp;<a href=\"https://instagram.com/timferriss/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">instagram.com/timferriss</a></p><p><strong>YouTube</strong>:&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/timferriss\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">youtube.com/timferriss</a></p><p><strong>Facebook</strong>:&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">facebook.com/timferriss</a>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>LinkedIn:&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"http://linkedin.com/in/timferriss\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">linkedin.com/in/timferriss</a></p><p>Past guests on&nbsp;<a href=\"http://tim.blog/podcast\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a>&nbsp;include&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/12/08/jerry-seinfeld/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jerry Seinfeld</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/06/26/hugh-jackman/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Hugh Jackman</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/04/16/jane-goodall/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Jane Goodall</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2018/11/27/lebron-james-mike-mancias/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">LeBron James</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/05/20/kevin-hart/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Kevin Hart</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2018/09/07/doris-kearns-goodwin-leadership/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Doris Kearns Goodwin</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2015/12/06/jamie-foxx/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jamie Foxx</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/10/19/matthew-mcconaughey/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Matthew McConaughey</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/05/21/esther-perel/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Esther Perel</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/05/08/elizabeth-gilbert/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Elizabeth Gilbert</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/12/20/terry-crews-how-to-have-do-and-be-all-you-want/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Terry Crews</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/08/12/sia/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sia</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/10/27/yuval-noah-harari/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Yuval Noah Harari</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2016/06/21/malcolm-gladwell/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Malcolm Gladwell</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/05/27/secretary-madeleine-albright/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Madeleine Albright</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/03/30/cheryl-strayed/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Cheryl Strayed</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jim Collins</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/11/11/mary-karr/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Mary Karr,</a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2014/10/21/brain-pickings/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Maria Popova</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/05/15/sam-harris-2/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sam Harris</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2021/01/21/michael-phelps-grant-hackett/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Phelps</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/01/16/bob-iger/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Bob Iger</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/10/31/edward-norton-motherless-brooklyn/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Edward Norton</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2015/02/02/arnold-schwarzenegger/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Arnold Schwarzenegger</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2014/06/24/neil-strauss/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Neil Strauss</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/09/12/ken-burns/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ken Burns</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/08/26/maria-sharapova/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Maria Sharapova</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2016/05/29/marc-andreessen/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Marc Andreessen</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/03/28/neil-gaiman/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Neil Gaiman</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/10/03/neil-degrasse-tyson/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Neil de Grasse Tyson</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2016/09/21/jocko-willink-on-discipline-leadership-and-overcoming-doubt/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jocko Willink</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/12/03/daniel-ek/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Daniel Ek</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/09/08/kelly-slater/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Kelly Slater</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/11/27/peter-attia-fasting-metformin-longevity/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Peter Attia</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2016/02/10/seth-godin/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Seth Godin</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2018/09/25/howard-marks/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Howard Marks</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/02/06/brene-brown-striving-self-acceptance-saving-marriages/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Brené Brown</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/04/09/eric-schmidt/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Eric Schmidt</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/05/01/michael-lewis/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Lewis</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2018/03/08/joe-gebbia-co-founder-of-airbnb/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Joe Gebbia</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2018/05/06/michael-pollan-how-to-change-your-mind/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Pollan</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2021/03/01/jordan-peterson/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Jordan Peterson</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/05/31/vince-vaughn/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Vince Vaughn</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/04/23/brian-koppelman/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Brian Koppelman</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/05/07/ramit-sethi/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ramit Sethi</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/11/18/dax-shepard/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dax Shepard</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2014/10/15/money-master-the-game/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Tony Robbins</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/05/18/jim-dethmer/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jim Dethmer</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/11/19/dan-harris/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dan Harris</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/09/13/ray-dalio/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ray Dalio</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2015/08/18/the-evolutionary-angel-naval-ravikant/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Naval Ravikant</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2021/03/08/vitalik-buterin-naval-ravikant/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Vitalik Buterin</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2021/03/16/elizabeth-lesser/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Elizabeth Lesser</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/04/18/amanda-palmer-2/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Amanda Palmer</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2021/02/18/katie-haun/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Katie Haun</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/10/09/richard-branson/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sir Richard Branson</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/09/02/chuck-palahniuk/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Chuck Palahniuk</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/10/18/arianna-huffington/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Arianna Huffington</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2015/08/31/the-oracle-of-silicon-valley-reid-hoffman-plus-michael-mccullough/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Reid Hoffman</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/09/17/bill-burr/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Bill Burr</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2015/06/26/whitney-cummings/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Whitney Cummings</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2015/05/15/rick-rubin/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Rick Rubin</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/03/26/vivek-murthy/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Vivek Murthy</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/09/09/darren-aronofsky/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Darren Aronofsky</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2022/02/22/margaret-atwood/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Margaret Atwood</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2022/03/24/mark-zuckerberg/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Mark Zuckerberg</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2014/09/09/peter-thiel/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Peter Thiel</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2018/02/20/gabor-mate/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Gabor Maté</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2021/07/09/anne-lamott/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Anne Lamott</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2022/01/12/sarah-silverman/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sarah Silverman</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2021/07/06/andrew-huberman/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Andrew Huberman</a>, and many more.</p>","html":"<iframe src=\"https://art19.com/shows/tim-ferriss-show/episodes/b40d5b98-f215-42fc-8b67-446d540ff94c/embed\" style=\"width: 720px; height: 200px; border: 0 none;\" width=\"720\" height=\"200\" 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