{"author_name":"The Tim Ferriss Show","author_url":"https://art19.com/shows/tim-ferriss-show/episodes/a42d6d61-44e9-4409-aae7-cf3044d63e8c","description":"<p>This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode #421 <strong>\"Dr. Jane Goodall — The Legend, The Lessons, The Hope\" </strong>and episode #145 <strong>\"The Interview Master: Cal Fussman and the Power of Listening.\"</strong></p><p>Please enjoy!</p><p><strong>Sponsors:</strong></p><p><a href=\"https://livemomentous.com/tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Momentous</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;high-quality supplements:&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"https://livemomentous.com/tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>https://livemomentous.com/tim</strong></a>&nbsp;<strong>(code TIM for 20% off)</strong></p><p><a href=\"https://eightsleep.com/Tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Eight Sleep’s Pod 4 Ultra</strong></a>&nbsp;<strong>sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating:&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"https://eightsleep.com/tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>https://eightsleep.com/tim</strong></a>&nbsp;<strong>(save $350 on the Pod 4 Ultra)</strong></p><p><a href=\"https://wealthfront.com/tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Wealthfront</strong></a><strong> high-yield cash account:&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"https://wealthfront.com/tim\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>https://wealthfront.com/tim</strong></a><strong>&nbsp;</strong>(Start earning 5.00% APY on your short term cash until you’re ready to invest. And when you open an account today, you can get an extra fifty-dollar bonus with a deposit of five hundred dollars or more.)&nbsp;Terms&nbsp;apply.</p><p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p><p>[00:00] Start</p><p>[04:48] Notes about this supercombo format.</p><p><strong>[05:51] Enter Dr. Jane Goodall.</strong></p><p>[06:19] Connecting with Louis Leakey and becoming his secretary.</p><p>[09:43] Gaining acceptance among chimpanzees.</p><p>[13:09] Primate personalities, compassion, and the story of Old Man saving Marc Cusano.</p><p>[17:34] Observations of chimpanzee compassion and violence, and inferences about human nature.</p><p>[19:19] Explaining variance in chimpanzee attitudes toward dominance.</p><p>[20:55] Cultivating hope to overcome apathy.</p><p>[26:19] Mr. H, Gary Haun, the indomitable human spirit, and overcoming adversity.</p><p>[29:37] Dr. Goodall's billboard.</p><p><strong>[31:20] Enter Cal Fussman.</strong></p><p>[32:56] Quincy Jones' unique book signing practice.</p><p>[34:19] Cal's pivotal childhood moment.</p><p>[38:55] Deconstructing the skill of asking great questions.</p><p>[42:43] Contrasting interview styles from different life stages.</p><p>[48:25] University of Missouri Journalism's role in Cal's career.</p><p>[52:24] Drinking with Hunter S. Thompson and Johnny Depp.</p><p>[55:45] Cal's start in international travel (and my family trip to Iceland).</p><p>[1:06:34] How a single question got Cal six months of lodging.</p><p>[1:14:45] Common mistakes and lessons learned about the art of asking questions.</p><p>[1:23:30] Honing the ability to tell stories.</p><p>[1:27:11] A life-changing event at the end of Cal's travels.</p><p>[1:31:43] Perfecting the conversational interview.</p><p>[1:33:43] Speaking at Summit at Sea.</p><p>[1:46:15] What Mikhail Gorbachev taught Cal about the art of the interview.</p><p>[1:55:45] Boxing Julio César Chávez.</p><p>[2:30:31] Why Alex Banayan and George Foreman define success for Cal.</p><p>[2:42:58] Most gifted books.</p><p>[2:49:47] Favorite documentaries and movies.</p><p>[2:55:37] Cal's billboard.</p><p>[2:56:08] Advice to Cal's 30-year-old self.</p><p>[2:59:05] Overcoming writer's block with Harry Crews' advice.</p><p>[3:18:56] Parting thoughts.</p><p><strong>*</strong></p><p><strong>For show notes and past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"https://tim.blog/podcast\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong>, please visit</strong>&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/podcast/?utm_source=podcast&amp;utm_medium=podcast&amp;utm_campaign=podcast-description\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>tim.blog/podcast</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><strong>For deals from sponsors of&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"https://tim.blog/podcast\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a><strong><em>,&nbsp;</em>please visit&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"https://tim.blog/podcast-sponsors\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>tim.blog/podcast-sponsors</strong></a></p><p><strong>Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (<em>5-Bullet Friday</em>) at&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-1/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" 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target=\"_blank\">youtube.com/timferriss</a></p><p><strong>Facebook</strong>:&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">facebook.com/timferriss</a>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>LinkedIn:&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"http://linkedin.com/in/timferriss\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">linkedin.com/in/timferriss</a></p><p><strong>Past guests on&nbsp;</strong><a href=\"http://tim.blog/podcast\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><strong><em>The Tim Ferriss Show</em></strong></a>&nbsp;include&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/12/08/jerry-seinfeld/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jerry Seinfeld</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/06/26/hugh-jackman/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Hugh Jackman</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/04/16/jane-goodall/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Jane Goodall</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2018/11/27/lebron-james-mike-mancias/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">LeBron James</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/05/20/kevin-hart/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Kevin Hart</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2018/09/07/doris-kearns-goodwin-leadership/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Doris Kearns Goodwin</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2015/12/06/jamie-foxx/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jamie Foxx</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/10/19/matthew-mcconaughey/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Matthew McConaughey</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/05/21/esther-perel/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Esther Perel</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/05/08/elizabeth-gilbert/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Elizabeth Gilbert</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/12/20/terry-crews-how-to-have-do-and-be-all-you-want/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Terry Crews</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/08/12/sia/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sia</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/10/27/yuval-noah-harari/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Yuval Noah Harari</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2016/06/21/malcolm-gladwell/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Malcolm Gladwell</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/05/27/secretary-madeleine-albright/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Madeleine Albright</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/03/30/cheryl-strayed/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Cheryl Strayed</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/02/18/jim-collins/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jim Collins</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/11/11/mary-karr/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Mary Karr,</a>&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2014/10/21/brain-pickings/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Maria Popova</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/05/15/sam-harris-2/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sam Harris</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2021/01/21/michael-phelps-grant-hackett/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Phelps</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/01/16/bob-iger/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Bob Iger</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/10/31/edward-norton-motherless-brooklyn/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Edward Norton</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2015/02/02/arnold-schwarzenegger/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Arnold Schwarzenegger</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2014/06/24/neil-strauss/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Neil Strauss</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/09/12/ken-burns/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ken Burns</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/08/26/maria-sharapova/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Maria Sharapova</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2016/05/29/marc-andreessen/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Marc Andreessen</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/03/28/neil-gaiman/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Neil Gaiman</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/10/03/neil-degrasse-tyson/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Neil de Grasse Tyson</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2016/09/21/jocko-willink-on-discipline-leadership-and-overcoming-doubt/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jocko Willink</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/12/03/daniel-ek/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Daniel Ek</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/09/08/kelly-slater/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Kelly Slater</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/11/27/peter-attia-fasting-metformin-longevity/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Peter Attia</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2016/02/10/seth-godin/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Seth Godin</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2018/09/25/howard-marks/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Howard Marks</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/02/06/brene-brown-striving-self-acceptance-saving-marriages/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Brené Brown</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/04/09/eric-schmidt/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Eric Schmidt</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/05/01/michael-lewis/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Lewis</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2018/03/08/joe-gebbia-co-founder-of-airbnb/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Joe Gebbia</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2018/05/06/michael-pollan-how-to-change-your-mind/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Michael Pollan</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2021/03/01/jordan-peterson/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Jordan Peterson</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/05/31/vince-vaughn/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Vince Vaughn</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/04/23/brian-koppelman/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Brian Koppelman</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/05/07/ramit-sethi/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ramit Sethi</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/11/18/dax-shepard/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dax Shepard</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2014/10/15/money-master-the-game/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Tony Robbins</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/05/18/jim-dethmer/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Jim Dethmer</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/11/19/dan-harris/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dan Harris</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/09/13/ray-dalio/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Ray Dalio</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2015/08/18/the-evolutionary-angel-naval-ravikant/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Naval Ravikant</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2021/03/08/vitalik-buterin-naval-ravikant/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Vitalik Buterin</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2021/03/16/elizabeth-lesser/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Elizabeth Lesser</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2019/04/18/amanda-palmer-2/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Amanda Palmer</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2021/02/18/katie-haun/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Katie Haun</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/10/09/richard-branson/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sir Richard Branson</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/09/02/chuck-palahniuk/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Chuck Palahniuk</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/10/18/arianna-huffington/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Arianna Huffington</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2015/08/31/the-oracle-of-silicon-valley-reid-hoffman-plus-michael-mccullough/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Reid Hoffman</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/09/17/bill-burr/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Bill Burr</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2015/06/26/whitney-cummings/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Whitney Cummings</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2015/05/15/rick-rubin/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Rick Rubin</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2020/03/26/vivek-murthy/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Vivek Murthy</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2017/09/09/darren-aronofsky/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Darren Aronofsky</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2022/02/22/margaret-atwood/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Margaret Atwood</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2022/03/24/mark-zuckerberg/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Mark Zuckerberg</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2014/09/09/peter-thiel/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Peter Thiel</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2018/02/20/gabor-mate/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Gabor Maté</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2021/07/09/anne-lamott/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Anne Lamott</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2022/01/12/sarah-silverman/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sarah Silverman</a>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https://tim.blog/2021/07/06/andrew-huberman/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Dr. Andrew Huberman</a>, and many more.</p>","html":"<iframe src=\"https://art19.com/shows/tim-ferriss-show/episodes/a42d6d61-44e9-4409-aae7-cf3044d63e8c/embed\" style=\"width: 720px; height: 200px; border: 0 none;\" width=\"720\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"></iframe>","provider_name":"ART19","provider_url":"https://art19.com","title":"#743: Dr. Jane Goodall and Cal Fussman ","type":"rich","version":"1.0","width":720,"height":200}