{"author_name":"The Sydcast","author_url":"https://art19.com/shows/the-sydcast/episodes/7256f1fe-8155-4a04-ba07-e72ce793f129","description":"<p><strong>Episode Summary</strong></p><p>Most people look at the life of the entrepreneur and think, they’ve got it made. You’re your own boss, you call the shots, you’re making money, what a great life. But, the reality is very different. Incredible stress, ultra-long hours, doubts about everything that can never be shared with anyone else, and sometimes much worse. Even with a long lineage of entrepreneurs behind her, start-up founder Cherry Rose Tan found herself underestimating how tough and personal the start-up journey would be.&nbsp;Drawing on her own personal and professional experience, Cherry Rose is creating a mental health movement in entrepreneurship and her podcast&nbsp;<a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/realtalk-with-cherry-rose-tan/id1512495640\" target=\"_blank\">#realtalk</a>&nbsp;is helping others create solid emotional foundations for success. She talks about the stuff no one is saying out loud, and she’s making a difference. Syd and Cherry Rose dig deep into the emotional world of the entrepreneur, in this episode of&nbsp;<em>The Sydcast</em>.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Syd Finkelstein&nbsp;</strong></p><p><a href=\"http://faculty.tuck.dartmouth.edu/sydney-finkelstein/\" target=\"_blank\">Syd Finkelstein</a>&nbsp;is the Steven Roth Professor of Management at the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth College. He holds a Masters degree from the London School of Economics and a Ph.D. from Columbia University. Professor Finkelstein has published 25 books and 90 articles, including the bestsellers<a href=\"http://whysmartexecutivesfail.com/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;<em>Why Smart Executives Fail</em></a>&nbsp;and<a href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Superbosses-Exceptional-Leaders-Master-Talent/dp/1591847834\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;<em>Superbosses: How Exceptional Leaders Master the Flow of Talent</em></a><em>,&nbsp;</em>which<em>&nbsp;</em>LinkedIn Chairman Reid Hoffman calls the “leadership guide for the Networked Age.” He is also a Fellow of the Academy of Management, a consultant and speaker to leading companies around the world, and a top 25 on the global Thinkers 50 list of top management gurus. Professor Finkelstein’s research and consulting work often relies on in-depth and personal interviews with hundreds of people, an experience that led him to create and host his own podcast,<a href=\"http://thesydcast.com/\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;The Sydcast</a>, to uncover and share the stories of all sorts of fascinating people in business, sports, entertainment, politics, academia, and everyday life.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Cherry Rose Tan</strong></p><p>With twelve years of expertise in psychology, Cherry Rose has guided thousands through the trenches of mental health.&nbsp;A fifth-generation entrepreneur, her superpower is helping leaders talk about the really hard things, so they can lead powerfully at home and at work.&nbsp;A mentor for the Inc. Founders Project, she coaches CEOs on emotional resilience and psychological safety. As the CEO of&nbsp;<a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/realtalk-with-cherry-rose-tan/id1512495640\" target=\"_blank\">#realtalk</a>, the mental health movement for the tech industry, she is shedding a light on tech’s darkest secrets. With 70+ champions across North America, tech CEOs share their mental health stories on her Top 14 Business podcast on iTunes. A mental health authority, she has been featured in Forbes, Inc., and more.&nbsp;She teaches at the Schulich School of Business.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Insights from this episode:</strong></p><ul><li>Reasons why entrepreneurs suffer from higher rates of depression and other instances of mental illness.</li><li>The secret skill key to being a good and effective leader and how you can train yourself in that skill.</li><li>Benefits of emotional management on mental health.&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>Strategies for dealing with the leadership and power systems currently in place around us to increase our emotional capacity and create a space for healing.</li><li>How to share difficult or painful experiences with others to help normalize conversations about mental health.</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Quotes from the show:</strong></p><ul><li>“When I got into entrepreneurship it was really a lot tougher than I thought.”&nbsp;<strong>–</strong>&nbsp;<strong>Cherry Rose Tan</strong></li><li>“It’s so important for a leader to be a great listener.&nbsp;It’s an old story, everybody talks about it, very few are all that great at it in my experience.”&nbsp;<strong>–</strong>&nbsp;<strong>Syd Finkelstein</strong></li><li>“You can not outsource the ability to listen effectively, you’ve got to do it as a leader.”&nbsp;<strong>–</strong>&nbsp;<strong>Syd Finkelstein</strong></li><li>“When people are going through those [painful] things it’s so important for us to be in a space where we can actually be with the pain.”&nbsp;<strong>–</strong>&nbsp;<strong>Cherry Rose Tan</strong></li><li>“I know we talk about the pandemic in terms of COVID, but there’s also a second pandemic in the sense of what’s happening with mental health and I mean it very seriously.”&nbsp;<strong>–</strong>&nbsp;<strong>Cherry Rose Tan</strong></li><li>“Emotional management is one of the most important skills that we could possibly have because the way that we relate to our emotions completely affects how we show up as a leader.”&nbsp;<strong>–</strong>&nbsp;<strong>Cherry Rose Tan</strong></li><li>On sharing emotional, personal stories: “I think we’d be healthier if somehow we could share some of those stories with others. We put on a mask, don’t we.”&nbsp;<strong>–</strong>&nbsp;<strong>Syd Finkelstein</strong></li><li>“One of the best risk mitigation tools is actually listening because when you listen and you can observe you can actually see the warning signs early.”&nbsp;<strong>–</strong>&nbsp;<strong>Cherry Rose Tan</strong></li><li>“I’m the kind of person that gets really excited about creating solutions, especially at the systems level and creating solutions to problems that I know are ready-coming.”&nbsp;<strong>–</strong>&nbsp;<strong>Cherry Rose Tan</strong></li><li>On the process of starting a business: “My fascination is why haven’t we thought about tracking the mental health conditions that occur across the stages.”&nbsp;<strong>–</strong>&nbsp;<strong>Cherry Rose Tan</strong></li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Stay Connected:</strong></p><p><strong>&nbsp;</strong></p><p><strong>Syd Finkelstein</strong></p><p>Website:<a href=\"http://thesydcast.com/\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;http://thesydcast.com</a></p><p>LinkedIn:<a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/in/sydney-finkelstein-3900032\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;Sydney Finkelstein</a></p><p>Twitter:<a href=\"https://twitter.com/sydfinkelstein?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;@sydfinkelstein</a></p><p>Facebook:<a href=\"https://www.facebook.com/TheSydcast/?modal=admin_todo_tour\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;The Sydcast</a></p><p>Instagram:<a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/thesydcast/?hl=en\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;The Sydcast</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Cherry Rose Tan</strong></p><p>Podcast:&nbsp;<a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/realtalk-with-cherry-rose-tan/id1512495640\" target=\"_blank\">#realtalk with Cherry Rose Tan</a></p><p>Podcast:&nbsp;<a href=\"https://realtalkmvmt.com/\" target=\"_blank\">#realtalk movement [for the tech industry]</a></p><p>Book:&nbsp;<a href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Communication-Language-Life-Changing-Relationships-ebook/dp/B014OISVU4#ace-g3379618840\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Nonviolent Communication</em></a>&nbsp;by Marshall B. Rosenberg</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to our podcast + download each episode on<a href=\"https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/sydney-finkelstein/the-sydcast\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;<strong>Stitcher</strong></a>,<a href=\"https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-sydcast/id1453232081?ign-mpt=uo%3D4&amp;mt=2\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>&nbsp;iTunes</strong></a>, and<a href=\"https://open.spotify.com/show/05JfIwBsi2BfkszkM1ecuU?si=YRNn-zMQS9mtTDmhESkfYQ\" target=\"_blank\">&nbsp;<strong>Spotify</strong></a>.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>This episode was produced and managed by&nbsp;Podcast Laundry (</strong><a href=\"http://www.podcastlaundry.com/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>www.podcastlaundry.com</strong></a><strong>)</strong></p>","html":"<iframe src=\"https://art19.com/shows/the-sydcast/episodes/7256f1fe-8155-4a04-ba07-e72ce793f129/embed\" style=\"width: 720px; height: 200px; border: 0 none;\" width=\"720\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"></iframe>","provider_name":"ART19","provider_url":"https://art19.com","title":"Entrepreneurs in Trouble: Fighting Depression and Stress with Cherry Rose Tan","type":"rich","version":"1.0","width":720,"height":200}