{"author_name":"The Heart of Healthcare | A Digital Health Podcast","author_url":"https://art19.com/shows/the-heart-of-healthcare/episodes/13fe4f00-241b-4333-bec5-44e5b6d54c9e","description":"<p>Last year, his independent pharmacy spent $13 million on brand-name drugs for patients processed by the three biggest Pharmacy Benefit Managers (PBMs) which earned a profit margin of 0.01%.</p><p>In this episode, Halle speaks with Alec Ginsberg, owner and fourth-generation pharmacist at C.O. Bigelow, the oldest surviving apothecary–pharmacy in the United States. Alec is fighting against the forces squeezing independent pharmacies and charting a course for the future of the pharmacist.</p><p><strong>We cover</strong>:</p><ul><li>How the roll-up of PBMs, health plans, and retail pharmacies changed everything</li><li>What led him to remove his pharmacy’s Rx-filling robot</li><li>The dramatic decline of independent pharmacies along with the closures of big box pharmacy stores</li><li>The one health policy he would put in place today to save independent pharmacies</li><li>The history of the pharmacist's role and what’s next</li><li>What he really thinks about compounding pharmacies and the Hims vs. Novo lawsuit</li></ul><p>—</p><p><strong>About our guest:&nbsp;</strong></p><p>Alec Wade Ginsberg is the fourth-generation pharmacist, owner, and Chief Operating Officer of C.O. Bigelow Apothecary, America’s oldest pharmacy, founded in 1838 and still operating in New York City’s West Village. With a Doctor of Pharmacy degree from the University of North Carolina Eshelman School of Pharmacy, Alec bridges the clinical world of pharmacy with the realities of modern consumer culture.</p><p>At Bigelow, he oversees the brick-and-mortar beauty retail and pharmacy operations, navigating everything from prescription drug shortages to the pressures of today’s PBM-dominated marketplace. Beyond the counter, Alec is the founder and writer of Drugstore Cowboy, a weekly newsletter that dissects the intersection of drugs, business, and consumer culture — making the hidden mechanics of the U.S. healthcare system both understandable and entertaining for thousands of readers.</p><p>His work has been featured across national media, and he’s become a trusted voice for translating complex pharmaceutical issues — from GLP-1s to compounding to drug pricing — into plain English. Alec’s mission is simple: to make Americans smarter about the pills in their cabinets and the system that puts them there.</p><p>—</p><p><strong>Show notes:</strong></p><ul><li><a href=\"https://drugstorecowboy.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Drugstore Cowboy</a> - Alec’s free and super interesting newsletter</li><li><a href=\"https://bigelowchemists.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">C.O. Bigelow</a> - The Nation’s Oldest Apothecary</li><li><a href=\"https://halletecco.substack.com/p/virtual-glp-1-startups-pill-mills\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Virtual GLP-1 startups: Pill mills or the future of obesity care?</a></li></ul><p>—</p><p><strong>📍 Connect with us:</strong></p><p><a href=\"https://www.heartofhealthcarepodcast.com/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Heart of Healthcare website</em></a></p><p><a href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-heart-of-healthcare-podcast\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>LinkedIn</em></a></p><p><a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/heartofhealthcarepodcast/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Instagram</em></a></p><p><a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/@heartofhealthcarepodcast\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Youtube </em></a></p>","html":"<iframe src=\"https://art19.com/shows/the-heart-of-healthcare/episodes/13fe4f00-241b-4333-bec5-44e5b6d54c9e/embed\" style=\"width: 720px; height: 200px; border: 0 none;\" width=\"720\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"></iframe>","provider_name":"ART19","provider_url":"https://art19.com","title":"The Drugstore Cowboy | C.O. Bigelow Owner & Pharmacist Alec Ginsberg","type":"rich","version":"1.0","width":720,"height":200}