{"author_name":"Notice That","author_url":"https://art19.com/shows/notice-that-an-emdr-podcast/episodes/1d6484b5-2021-4a1c-8cd9-68a077bcb01d","description":"<p>In this return to our <em>Back to Basics</em> series, we’re diving into one of the most misunderstood—and often over-scripted—parts of EMDR therapy: <strong>interweaves</strong>.</p><p>If you were trained to think of interweaves as something you “pull out of a list” when a client gets stuck, you’re not alone. But what if interweaves aren’t about saying the <em>right thing</em>… and instead about understanding <strong>what the system needs next</strong>?</p><p>In this episode, we explore:</p><ul><li>What interweaves are <em>actually</em> doing in the brain and nervous system</li><li>Why “cognitive interweaves” are only part of the story</li><li>How stuckness in EMDR often reflects deeper relational and developmental patterns</li><li>The difference between <strong>interrupting processing</strong> vs. <strong>supporting movement</strong></li><li>How to move from rigid scripts to <strong>relational, somatic, and intuitive interweaves</strong></li><li>Why some interweaves increase distress—and why that’s not a failure</li></ul><p><br></p><p>We walk through core categories from Francine Shapiro's <em>EMDR: Basic Principles, Protocols, and Procedures </em>(responsibility, safety, and choice), while also expanding into a more integrative framework that includes:</p><ul><li>Somatic interweaves</li><li>Affective interweaves</li><li>Relational and resource-based interweaves</li></ul><p><br></p><p>You’ll also hear real clinical reflections on:</p><ul><li>Why “I’m confused…” doesn’t always land</li><li>How metaphor, imagery, and even humor can unlock stuck processing</li><li>When to <strong>stay out of the way</strong>… and when your presence matters most</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Ultimately, this conversation reframes interweaves not as a technique—but as a <strong>relational intervention grounded in attunement, timing, and case conceptualization</strong>.</p><p>If you’ve ever found yourself thinking:</p><p>“What do I say right now?”</p><p>This episode will help you shift toward:</p><p>“What does my client’s system need right now?”</p>","html":"<iframe src=\"https://art19.com/shows/notice-that-an-emdr-podcast/episodes/1d6484b5-2021-4a1c-8cd9-68a077bcb01d/embed\" style=\"width: 720px; height: 200px; border: 0 none;\" width=\"720\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"></iframe>","provider_name":"ART19","provider_url":"https://art19.com","title":"\"Cognitive\" Interweaves in EMDR: From Scripts to Relational Process","type":"rich","version":"1.0","width":720,"height":200}