{"author_name":"BITP - How I Built This with Guy Raz","author_url":"https://art19.com/shows/how-i-built-this/episodes/30577acd-0a96-4b5c-9301-d43b955cbb1a","description":"<p>In the late 1990s, Shep and Ian Murray looked at a shrinking category–men’s ties–and saw an opportunity: a necktie isn’t just functional. It’s expressive. It can signal identity, taste, aspiration.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p>With no fashion experience and no outside investors, the Murray brothers started making colorful ties inspired by their childhoods in Martha’s Vineyard — tiny whales, sailboats, island street signs.&nbsp;What began as a small, improbable tie business grew into Vineyard Vines: a half-billion-dollar lifestyle brand with more than 100 stores and major department store distribution.&nbsp;</p><p>In this episode, Shep and Ian talk about why they quit their stable jobs to turn a sleepy product into a national brand, which began as a family business and remains so to this day.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>What you’ll learn:&nbsp;</p><ul><li>Why a great business can start in a category that everyone thinks is dying</li><li>How to build distribution when you have no roadmap and few connections&nbsp;</li><li>What bootstrapping teaches founders that outside capital often doesn’t</li><li>How improvised marketing can create outsized attention</li><li>Knowing the difference between a fashion brand and a “brand” brand</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:&nbsp;</p><ul><li>00:10:22 - The brothers both hate their desk jobs: “How was your day?” “It sucked.”</li><li>&nbsp;00:11:20 - Vineyard Vines starts on a family trip, with a nudge from a hotel manager</li><li>00:13:46 - Early designs: whales, fish, jeeps, street signs&nbsp;</li><li>00:25:39 - Finally quitting their jobs– they’re thrilled, their parents–not so much</li><li>00:30:42 - Landing their first order for $1800. “We’re never gonna have to work anymore!”</li><li>00:34:40 - The brand gets a boost from a PR stunt during the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal</li><li>00:47:00 - The&nbsp;“Get to $5 million” mentor advice that kept them focused&nbsp;</li><li>00:49:23 - The brothers open their first store - and realize they have a lot to learn&nbsp;&nbsp;</li><li>01:01:18 - The 2008 financial crisis, and the brutal inventory decisions that help save the business</li><li>01:09:06 - Why stepping back from the CEO role didn’t work — and what it taught them about brand culture</li></ul><p><br></p><p>This episode was produced by Kerry Thompson with music composed by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Neva Grant with research help from Casey Herman.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow How I Built This:</strong></p><p>Instagram → <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/howibuiltthis/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">@howibuiltthis</a></p><p>X → <a href=\"https://x.com/howibuiltthis\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">@HowIBuiltThis</a></p><p>Facebook → <a href=\"https://www.facebook.com/howibuiltthis\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">How I Built This</a></p><p><strong>Follow Guy Raz:</strong></p><p>Instagram → <a href=\"https://www.instagram.com/guy.raz/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">@guy.raz</a></p><p>Youtube →<a href=\"https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNSfrxNEmCruNtjIzxCBHjg\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> guy_raz</a></p><p><br></p><p>X → <a href=\"https://x.com/guyraz\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">@guyraz</a></p><p>Substack →<a href=\"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/guyraz.substack.com__;!!Iwwt!RZoD751oWzUzoqqdJiqaoL6HdJfRHDUO1TKvYJ424d3Udn7-Pw9Nj6nEsauh9zcgEvLjUEc$\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> </a><a href=\"http://guyraz.substack.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">guyraz.substack.com</a></p><p>Website →<a href=\"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/guyraz.substack.com__;!!Iwwt!RZoD751oWzUzoqqdJiqaoL6HdJfRHDUO1TKvYJ424d3Udn7-Pw9Nj6nEsauh9zcgEvLjUEc$\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\"> </a><a href=\"http://guyraz.com\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">guyraz.com</a></p><p><br></p>","html":"<iframe src=\"https://art19.com/shows/how-i-built-this/episodes/30577acd-0a96-4b5c-9301-d43b955cbb1a/embed\" style=\"width: 720px; height: 200px; border: 0 none;\" width=\"720\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-popups allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"></iframe>","provider_name":"ART19","provider_url":"https://art19.com","title":"Shep and Ian Murray: Vineyard Vines. A Stale Product Transforms into a Lifestyle Brand.","type":"rich","version":"1.0","width":720,"height":200}